Use a time marker for the pincite

Warning²Federal courts, Illinois courts21st and 22nd editions

A recording is pinpointed by elapsed time, not by page — “Oral Argument at 11:38”, not “Oral Argument at 11”; a written transcript of the same argument does have pages.¹

1. 1R. 10.8.3 Briefs, Court Filings, and Transcripts.
2. 2A warning: the form is usually wrong under the rule in note 1, and context can justify it.